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LED strip for indirect lighting

Indirect light loses about 75 % of its output to the ceiling – which is why the strip differs from one for direct lighting. Five decisions: technology, power, voltage, colour rendering and width.

Janne Halttu Janne Halttu · LedStore.fi ·

Why indirect light needs a different strip

When a strip lights a worktop directly, all the light goes there. When it lights the ceiling, the ceiling reflects 80 % if white and 40 % if wood – the rest is absorbed. After that the light spreads through the whole room, not onto one spot. In practice indirect general lighting needs about double the power of direct: 14.4 W/m where direct light would manage with 7.2 W/m.

The second difference is visibility. In direct light the strip is often behind a diffuser or far away. In indirect light a low profile brings the strip close to the diffuser or the ceiling, and the LED dots show on the ceiling as a row unless the strip is dotless.

LED strip on a ceiling beam - indirect light from the top of the beam to the ceiling
Strip on top of a beam, light to the ceiling. The ceiling is the luminaire – the strip has to produce enough for it.

Decision 1: COB or SMD

An SMD strip has separate LED chips every 5-15 mm. In a COB strip the chips are covered with a continuous phosphor layer, and the light surface is a continuous line. The difference shows when the strip is close to the surface:

COBSMD
Light surfaceContinuous line, no dotsRow of dots, blends with distance
In a profile under 20 mmThe only one that worksDots show on the ceiling
In a bulkhead over 20 mmWorksWorks, dense 120-240 LED/m
PriceAbout 30 % more expensiveCheaper
Luminous efficacySlightly lower lm/WBetter lm/W
SuitsSurface profiles, low bulkheads, furnitureLight cove, dropped ceiling, deep bulkheads

The deciding dimension is the profile depth from the strip to the diffuser or reflecting surface – not the size of the bulkhead. COB vs SMD in depth →

Decision 2: Power W/m

UsePowerExamples
Mood lighting3.6-7.2 W/mSauna, kickboard, stairs, furniture, bedroom in the evening
General lighting, light ceiling14.4 W/mLiving room, bedroom, hallway, bathroom
General lighting, wood panelling or high room17 W/mLog house, ceiling height over 3 m, office
Task lighting (direct)17 W/mKitchen backsplash, utility room worktop

In practice: living room 25 m², white ceiling, 15 m of strip

14.4 W/m × 15 m = 216 W. Luminous flux about 1 400 lm/m × 15 = 21 000 lm, of which the ceiling reflects 80 % = 16 800 lm into the room. Over 25 m² that is about 180 lx on average, i.e. living-room light.

The same room with a pine-panelled ceiling: 17 W/m and 50 % reflectance → 12 750 lm → 130 lx. With a dark ceiling: indirect general lighting is not enough unless the amount of light is also increased. It may be easier to fit just 7.2 W/m as mood lighting and add spotlights in the ceiling.

Decision 3: 24 V

Always 24 V. In a 12 V strip voltage drop is four times as large, and the far end dims after just 3-4 metres. At 24 V a single run can be 7-8 metres from one end, and longer when fed from both ends. 12 V is only justified in solar panel systems.

Decision 4: CRI at least 95

Colour rendering index. In indirect light it matters more than in direct light, because the light reflects off a surface and the colour error compounds. CRI 80 makes skin grey and wood flat. LedStore’s strips have a CRI of 95-97. Colour temperature and CRI →

Decision 5: Width and the profile groove

Strip widths are 5, 8 or 12 mm. Profile grooves are 6, 9 or 12 mm. A 10 mm strip does not fit a 7 × 18 mm surface profile. Choose the profile first, then the strip – or order both made to measure from the same place, so compatibility is guaranteed.

Cut interval

A strip can only be cut at marked points, typically every 5 or 10 cm. On a 3.72 metre wall you end up 2-8 cm short. LedStore’s “cut anywhere” strip has a cut point every centimetre – the length is exact and no dark gap is left in the corner, but the strip also has a downside due to its construction: its efficiency is poor. Only 700 lm from a 14.4 W strip (compared with 1 300 lm from standard ones!)

Which strip for which room

RoomStripWhy
Living room, light coveSMD 14.4 W/m CRI 95, or COBDeep bulkhead, SMD is enough, cheaper
Retrofit with a surface profileCOB 14.4 W/mLow profile, SMD would show dots
BedroomCOB 7.2-14.4 W/m 2700 K or CCTDimmable, warm
Kitchen backsplashSMD 17 W/m CRI 95, IP65 near the sinkDirect task light, true colours
BathroomCOB 14.4 W/m IP65, CCT at the mirrorMoisture, tone morning/evening
SaunaCOB 3.6 W/m IP65Heat, only under the benches
Kickboard, stairsCOB 7.2 W/m IP65A glossy floor reveals the dots, gets washed
Furniture, display cabinetCOB 5 mm 7.2 W/m CRI 97Viewed up close, narrow profile

Aluminium profiles → · Driver sizing → · How much light by room →

Three strips for each use. The cards come from the LED strip register, so technical data and prices stay up to date.

Dotless COB – profiles under 20 mm

14.4 W/m For general light
SOLO 14.4 W/m, 4000 K, IP20

STRIP144-24v-IP20-4000-COB

The basic strip for indirect general light: 1186 lm/m and CRI 96. Dot-free COB, so it also works in a profile under 20 mm where SMD would show dots. Neutral 4000 K suits kitchens, utility rooms and offices.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 14.4 W/m
Actual power draw 14.4 W/m
Luminous flux 1186 lm/m
Colour temperature 4000 K
CRI 96
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V
16.00 €/m LedStore →
14.4 W/m Widest range
SOLO TUNNELMA CCT 14.4 W/m, IP20

STRIP144-24V-IP20-CCT-COB

The widest colour temperature range: 2500-7300 K. Dot-free COB and 280 LED/m. Note that the nominal 14.4 W/m is the sum of two circuits – the driver is sized on the actual power draw of 10.3 W/m.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 14.4 W/m
Actual power draw 10.3 W/m
Luminous flux 592 lm/m
Colour temperature CCT 2500-7300 K
CRI 93
Width 10 mm
Cutting interval 10 cm
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V
31.80 €/m LedStore →
14 W/m Cut anywhere
SOLO “cut anywhere” 14 W/m, 4000 K

STRIP14-24V-IP20-4000-COB-cutanywhere

Super-dense 512 LED/m and can be cut at any point – no 5 or 10 cm cutting interval restriction. This solves exact-length runs that would otherwise leave a stub in the corner.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 14 W/m
Actual power draw 14 W/m
Colour temperature 4000 K
CRI 96
Width 10 mm
Cutting interval Anywhere
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V

Dense SMD – bulkheads over 20 mm

17 W/m For demanding general light
HELMI 17 W/m, 3500 K, IP20

STRIP17-24v-IP20-3500-SMD

The sizing calculator’s strip for demanding general light. 240 LED/m gives even light in a profile, and CRI 96 is enough for kitchens and meeting rooms. 3500 K is a compromise between warm and neutral.
Technology SMD 3528 – dotted
Power 17 W/m
Actual power draw 17 W/m
Colour temperature 3500 K
CRI 96
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V
24,20 €/m LedStore →
14.4 W/m Neutral light
HELMI 14.4 W/m, 4000 K, IP20

STRIP144-24v-IP20-4000-SMD

Neutral 4000 K for dry rooms. Suits light coves and dropped ceilings where the box is deep enough for the dots to even out.
Technology SMD – shows dots
Power 14.4 W/m
Actual power draw 14.4 W/m
Colour temperature 4000 K
CRI 94
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V
16.00 €/m LedStore →
14.4 W/m Affordable CCT
HELMI TUNNELMA CCT 14.4 W/m, IP20

STRIP144-24V-IP20-CCT-SMD

The cheapest CCT strip. The nominal 14.4 W/m is the sum of two circuits: the actual power draw is 8.0 W/m, so the driver is smaller than you might think at first.
Technology SMD – shows dots
Power 14.4 W/m
Actual power draw 8.0 W/m
Colour temperature CCT tunable
CRI 94
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP20
Voltage 24 V
25.80 €/m LedStore →

Wet rooms and long operating hours – IP65

14.4 W/m For wet rooms
SOLO 14.4 W/m, 4000 K, IP65

STRIP144-24v-IP65-4000-COB

The same strip with moisture protection. IP65 is required for bathrooms and the splash zone of a utility room. The coating does not yellow.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 14.4 W/m
Actual power draw 14.4 W/m
Luminous flux 1186 lm/m
Colour temperature 4000 K
CRI 96
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
20.00 €/m LedStore →
20 W/m Warm + power
HELMI PRO 20 W/m, 3000 K, IP65

STRIP20-24V-IP65-3000-SMD-PRO

Warm 3000 K at high power. Suits a high room where a warm tone is still wanted – for example indirect general light in a restaurant or lobby.
Technology SMD – dotted
Power 20 W/m
Actual power draw 20 W/m
Colour temperature 3000 K
CRI 94
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
19,80 €/m LedStore →
13.6 W/m 7-year warranty · CRI 97
HELMI SUPREME 13.6 W/m, 3000 K, IP65

STRIP136-24V-IP65-3000-SMD-SUPREME

A thicker copper base conducts heat away more efficiently, reflected in a 7-year warranty and CRI 97. LedStore recommends it for public spaces. Supplied on a 3 m reel.
Technology SMD – paksu kuparipohja
Power 13.6 W/m
Actual power draw 13.6 W/m
Colour temperature 3000 K
CRI 97
Width 10 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
40.15 €/m LedStore →

Ambient light, plinths and sauna

3.6 W/m Lowest power
SOLO TUNNELMA CCT 3.6 W/m, IP65

STRIP36-24V-IP65-CCT-COB

The lowest-power strip in the range. LedStore recommends it for saunas, plinths and stairs – exactly the places where too much light dazzles. Colour temperature adjustable. For driver sizing, use the actual power draw of 2.9 W/m.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 3.6 W/m
Actual power draw 2.9 W/m
Colour temperature CCT 2700-6500 K
CRI 95
Width 8 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
7.2 W/m Narrowest: 5 mm
SOLO slim 7.2 W/m, 3000 K, IP65

STRIP72-24V-IP65-3000-COB-slim

Only 5 mm narrow COB strip, so it fits a recessed shelf profile and a shelf-edge profile. Dot-free light even up close. IP65 withstands damp rooms. Plinth, shelf, furniture and staircase.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 7.2 W/m
Actual power draw 7.2 W/m
Luminous flux 619 lm/m
Colour temperature 3000 K
CRI 91
Width 5 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
19.80 €/m LedStore →
7.2 W/m For ambient light
SOLO TUNNELMA CCT 7.2 W/m, IP65

STRIP72-24V-IP65-CCT-COB

The basic choice for mood light when tunable colour temperature is wanted. Dot-free COB, so it also works in a low profile. The driver is sized on the actual power draw of 5.5 W/m, not the nominal 7.2 W/m.
Technology COB – dot-free
Power 7.2 W/m
Actual power draw 5.5 W/m
Colour temperature CCT 2700-6500 K
CRI 95
Width 8 mm
IP rating IP65
Voltage 24 V
25.80 €/m LedStore →

Frequently asked questions

Which LED strip for indirect lighting?

For general lighting 14.4 W/m and CRI 95, 24 V. COB for a profile under 20 mm, SMD is fine in deeper ones. 7.2 W/m for mood lighting, 3.6 W/m IP65 for the sauna.

How many watts per metre are enough?

Indirect light loses about 75 % to the ceiling, so the power is double that of direct light. General lighting on a light ceiling 14.4 W/m, on wood panelling 17 W/m, mood 7.2 W/m.

12V or 24V LED strip?

24 V always. Voltage drop is a quarter, and a run can be 7-8 m from one end. 12 V only in solar panel systems.

Does an LED strip withstand damp rooms?

IP65 withstands splashes and steam. Always IP65 for the bathroom, sauna and splash zones. IP20 does not belong in a wet room at all.

Can an LED strip be cut?

At marked points, every 5-10 cm. The length will not always be exact. A cut-anywhere strip has a cut point every centimetre.

Does an LED strip need an aluminium profile?

A strip over 10 W/m needs one for cooling – without a profile the light output drops and lifetime shortens. A profile also gives a straight line and a glare shield.

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