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Wall-ceiling junction indirect lighting

The wall-ceiling junction is the natural place for indirect light: the wall directs the light to the ceiling, the ceiling spreads it into the room. Three structures, two of which work in a finished room.

Janne Halttu Janne Halttu · LedStore.fi ·

Why the wall-ceiling junction

When the strip is at the wall-ceiling junction and the light is aimed upwards, the ceiling acts as a large luminaire that spreads the light through the whole room, soft and shadowless. The wall, in turn, acts as a glare shield in the other direction. That is why most indirect lighting is done exactly here – not in the middle of the ceiling or the middle of the wall.

There are three ways to the wall-ceiling junction, and the choice depends on whether the room is finished or under construction, and whether the profile may be visible.

DECO surface profile at the wall-ceiling junction - light rising to the ceiling and washing the wall
A surface profile at the wall-ceiling junction in a finished room. The profile shows as a slim trim, and the light washes down the wall.

Three ways

1. Corner profile on the surface – for a finished room

An aluminium corner profile is screwed into the wall-ceiling junction. The shape of the profile directs light to the ceiling and the wall, and the front plate of the profile itself acts as the glare shield. It shows as a corner trim that reads as a decorative moulding. No building work, no painting, installed in a day. Space required 40-60 mm from the wall depending on the model.

In practice: 20 m² living room, finished room

A straight 6 m wall. Corner profile + 2 x 14.4 W/m COB strip = 173 W, 200 W driver on top of a cabinet, with the cable under a corner trim down to the floor and a plug. Wireless control button. Materials €85/m, i.e. €500, driver €220 + wireless button €80.
Installation: the profile is screwed in, the strips glued, a piece of the profile removed at the corner for the LED channels, cables joined in the profile’s central channel and one cable down in a cable duct. One day.

INDIRECT-3 corner profile at the wall-ceiling junction - light to both ceiling and wall
A corner profile splitting light between ceiling and wall. The wall gets a soft wash, the ceiling general light.

2. A groove at the top of the wall – the invisible solution

During plasterboarding, a 20-50 mm deep groove is left at the top of the wall for the profile to be recessed into. The profile does not show at all – only the light slot. The groove has to be made during plasterboarding, so it suits renovations and new builds, not a finished wall. Profiles vary, and the deeper the profile is recessed, the better the glare protection.

Low Z-profile as plaster-in - light surface 7.5 mm from the finished surface
A low plaster-in profile in cross-section. Profile under the board, light slot 7.5 mm from the surface. Minimum framing depth 17 mm.

3. Curtain profile – curtain track and light together

If the window wall has curtains, a curtain profile hides the curtain track and lights the ceiling at the same time. One structure, two jobs. The light hits the top of the curtain and highlights how the fabric falls. Space required 60-80 mm, because the track fits inside.

Curtain profile at the ceiling-wall junction: track hidden, LED light rising to the ceiling and lighting the top of the curtain
Curtain profile: track hidden, light rising to the ceiling and the top of the curtain highlighted.

Which way the light goes

DirectionEffectWhen
Ceiling onlySoft general light, the wall stays darkerGeneral lighting, a low room feels higher
Wall onlyThe wall glows, the ceiling stays darkTextured surfaces, artwork, a high room
Ceiling and wallEven on both, no contrastWhen you want as much light as possible

Corners and ends

The profile is mitred at 45 degrees in the corner, or butted if its face is flat (e.g. DECO), and the strip is cut before the corner – a strip cannot be bent around a corner. A small darker spot of about 3-5 cm always remains in the corner, and it does not show in the light reflected onto the ceiling or wall.

The alternative is to leave the corner open and make two separate lines of light that end 10 cm before the corner – it looks intentional.

  • End caps on the profile ends – they cover the strip end and the cable.
  • Corner connectors for the strip – ready-made 90° corner pieces with the wire inside.
  • Feed from both ends if a continuous run is over 7 metres.
Distance from ceiling40-60 mm – under 30 mm makes a sharp stripe, over 100 mm wastes light
Strip power14.4 W/m for general lighting on a light ceiling, 7.2 W/m for mood
Strip typeCOB in a profile under 20 mm, dense SMD in deeper ones
Ceiling surfacematt – gloss reflects the strip
Driveron top of a cabinet or behind an access hatch, not inside the profile

Light cove – plasterboard bulkhead at the wall-ceiling junction → · Retrofit → · Glare shield →

Frequently asked questions

How is indirect light done at the wall-ceiling junction?

Three ways: a corner profile screwed to the surface, a groove at the top of the wall during plasterboarding, or a curtain profile that covers the curtain track. The corner profile is the quickest and needs no building work.

How deep a groove is needed at the top of the wall?

20-30 mm is enough with a low profile. The groove is made during plasterboarding, so it has to be planned before the boards go up. A groove in a finished wall is not realistic – use a surface profile then.

Is the profile visible at the wall-ceiling junction?

A corner profile shows as a slim trim, but it reads as a decorative moulding rather than a luminaire. A profile recessed into a groove does not show at all. The choice is between appearance and amount of work.

Can a curtain track and indirect light be combined?

Yes, and it is often the best solution for a window wall. A curtain profile hides the track and lights the ceiling – two things with one structure.

Which way should the light point, ceiling or wall?

Aimed at the ceiling it gives soft general light to the whole room. Aimed at the wall it highlights the surface and makes the room feel higher. At the wall-ceiling junction both are possible – the profile model decides.

How are corners done?

The profile is mitred at 45°, the strip is cut before the corner and continued with a corner connector. The small dark spot in the corner does not show on the ceiling. The alternative is to end the lines of light 10 cm before the corner.

Profiles for this structure

Profiles for the wall-ceiling junction

Profiles for the wall-ceiling corner – plaster-in models are recessed into the battens, surface models are screwed into the finished corner.

Plastered out of sight 1 / 5
LOW Z INDIRECT

Profile-INDIRECT-LOW-Z-3m

The lowest plaster-in solution: minimum batten depth only 17 mm, and the light surface sits 7.5 mm from the finished ceiling. Sized to go alongside a 22 mm timber batten or a 20 mm steel hat channel – keep the battens 14.5 mm off the wall, so a 12.5 mm plasterboard comes out flush. The plaster-in flange hides the profile in the ceiling board.
Dimensions 3000×38×20 mm
Max strip 10 mm
Installation Plaster-in, in the corner
50 € LedStore →
Softest light edge 1 / 3
Recessed in the ceiling, curved light slot

Profile-INDIRECT-curve-W-3m

Screwed to the frame and covered with 13 mm plasterboard – the light emerges from the curved profile surface painted white. The curved inner part diffuses the light softly and removes the hard light edge from the box opening. Recommended strip 14.4 W/m.
Dimensions 78 mm wide · 3 m
Max strip 13 mm
Installation Recessed into the frame
123 € LedStore →
For 48×48 battens 1 / 4
Z profile for dropped ceilings

profile-INDIRECT-Z-2m

Designed for 48×48 mm ceiling battens: keep the battens 25 mm off the wall. The depth of the light surface from the finished ceiling is 20 mm. Takes a strip up to 23 mm, or two narrow strips side by side.
Dimensions 2000×50×44 mm
Max strip 23 mm
Installation Plaster-in recess
60 € LedStore →
Corner, 2 directions 1 / 5
Corner surface profile, two-directional

profile-INDIRECT-3-W · 2.5 m or 3 m

A curved glare shield and room for two strips. Fitted at the ceiling edge in place of a cornice, or vertically in the corner of a room. The closest equivalent to a light cove without plasterboard work.
Dimensions 61×61 mm · 2.5 or 3 m
Max strip 12 mm
Installation Surface, in the corner
150-160 € LedStore →
Hides the track 1 / 5
At the ceiling edge, in front of the curtain track

Profile-curtain-DECO-W-2m

Screwed to the ceiling in front of the curtain track: the profile hides the track and directs the light down along the curtains. Takes a strip up to 20 mm, so a powerful 14-30 W/m strip fits. One product solves both hiding the track and the lighting.
Dimensions 55 mm high · 29 mm wide
Max strip 20 mm
Installation Screwed to the ceiling
60 € LedStore →

Prices include Finnish VAT of 25.5 % and are current LedStore.fi prices. Profiles include an opal cover and end caps; the LED strip is ordered separately.

Completed projects

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